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  • 1

    The Ultimate Sales Machine

    Turbocharge Your Business with Relentless Focus on 12 Key Strategies

    Chet Holmes · 2007

    3.979,181 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilienceFirst salesCompany building

    About the book

    Chet Holmes has been called “one of the top 20 change experts in the country.” He helps his clients blow away both the competition and their own expectations. And his advice starts with one simple concept: focus! Instead of trying to master four thousand…

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  • 2

    The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People

    Powerful Lessons in Personal Change

    Stephen R. Covey · 1989

    4.16843,480 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilienceCompany building

    About the book

    In The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, author Stephen R. Covey presents a holistic, integrated, principle-centered approach for solving personal and professional problems. With penetrating insights and pointed anecdotes, Covey reveals a step-by-step…

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  • 3

    Simple Marketing For Smart People

    The One Question You Need to Win Customers without Gimmicks, Hype, or Hard Selling

    Billy Broas · 2024

    4.35305 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilienceMarketing and growthFirst sales

    About the book

    Why do so many smart people struggle with marketing? The answer is smart people love complexity, and complexity brews problems. Does your marketing feel like it has way too many moving parts? If so, Simple Marketing for Smart People is the solution you’ve…

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  • 4

    Business Made Simple

    60 Days to Master Leadership, Sales, Marketing, Execution, Management, Personal Productivity and More

    Donald Miller · 2021

    4.192,054 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilienceFirst salesMarketing and growth

    About the book

    Is this blue book more valuable than a business degree? Most people enter their professional careers not understanding how to grow a business. At times, this makes them feel lost, or worse, like a fraud pretending to know what they're doing. It's hard to be…

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  • 5

    The Thousand Weeks

    Time Management for Mortals

    Oliver Burkeman · 2021

    4.18123,505 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilience

    About the book

    Simplified Chinese Edition of [Four Thousand Weeks ]

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  • 6

    The Power of Consistency

    Prosperity Mindset Training for Sales and Business Professionals

    Weldon Long · 2013

    4.25644 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilienceFirst salesCompany building

    About the book

    How to achieve wealth, happiness, and peace of mind through personal responsibility The Power of Consistency is based on the fundamental premise that private declarations dictate future actions. In other words, we tend to take actions with the thoughts and…

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  • 7

    Mindset

    The New Psychology of Success

    Carol S. Dweck · 2006

    4.09182,500 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilienceCompany building

    About the book

    A newer edition of this book can be found here. After decades of research, world-renowned Stanford University psychologist Carol S. Dweck, Ph.D., discovered a simple but groundbreaking idea: the power of mindset. In this brilliant book, she shows how…

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  • 8

    Million Dollar Habits

    Proven Power Practices to Double and Triple Your Income

    Brian Tracy · 1999

    4.003,669 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilienceCompany building

    About the book

    A guide to winning habits in business shows readers how to set and achieve goals quickly, organize their life, manage time, increase income, and tap inner power reserves--all in the service of improved productivity.

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The books most about focus and resilience.

  • 1

    Getting Things Done

    The Art of Stress-Free Productivity

    David Allen · 2001

    4.00170,488 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilience

    About the book

    In today's world, yesterday's methods just don't work. In Getting Things Done, veteran coach and management consultant David Allen shares the breakthrough methods for stress-free performance that he has introduced to tens of thousands of people across the…

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  • 2

    The PARA Method

    Simplify, Organize, and Master Your Digital Life

    Tiago Forte · 2023

    4.073,216 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilience

    About the book

    This accessible guide expands upon the “well-written, cogent, and useful” (David Allen, author of Getting Things Done) bestselling Building a Second Brain with actionable advice on how to improve your digital life in just a few minutes.Living a modern life…

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  • 3

    Bit Literacy

    Productivity in the Age of Information and E-mail Overload

    Mark Hurst · 2007

    3.702,567 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilience

    About the book

    "Bit Literacy" is essential reading for anyone who has experienced "digital overload" the daily flood of e-mail, multiple todo lists, a cluttered desktop, documents in various file formats, and the constant distraction of cell phones and other devices. More…

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  • 4

    The Wealth Money Can't Buy

    The 8 Hidden Habits to Live Your Richest Life

    Robin Sharma · 2024

    4.206,440 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilience

    About the book

    A groundbreaking book redefining success to show readers how they can create truly abundant and fulfilling lives by following Sharma’s model of the eight forms of wealth, growth, wellness, family, craft, money, community, adventure, and service, from the #1…

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  • 5

    Rich Habits

    The Daily Success Habits of Wealthy Individuals

    Thomas C. Corley · 2010

    3.711,791 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilience

    About the book

    The "Rich Habits" are ten principles created through years of researching the daily success habits of his wealthiest clients. These ten simple principles miraculously transform every individual who comes into contact with them. By applying these principles,…

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  • 6

    177 Mental Toughness Secrets of the World Class

    The Thought Processes, Habits and Philosophies of the Great Ones

    Steve Siebold · 2005

    4.35884 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilience

    About the book

    NEW Is it possible for a person of average intelligence and modest means to ascend to the throne of the world class? The answer is YES! Not only is it possible - it's being done everyday. This book shows you how. Some of the Mental Toughness Secrets You Will…

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  • 7

    Drive

    The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us

    Daniel H. Pink · 2009

    3.95127,465 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilience

    About the book

    The New York Times bestseller that gives readers a paradigm-shattering new way to think about motivation Most people believe that the best way to motivate is with rewards like money, the carrot-and-stick approach. That's a mistake, says Daniel H. Pink…

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  • 8

    Focus

    Use Different Ways of Seeing the World for Success and Influence

    Heidi Grant Halvorson · 2013

    3.961,067 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilience

    About the book

    We all want to experience pleasure and avoid pain. But there are really two kinds of pleasure and pain that motivate everything we do. If you are promotion-focused, you want to advance and avoid missed opportunities. If you are prevention-focused, you want to…

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What founders at seed need most: company building, finding product-market fit, raising money, first sales, marketing and growth.

  • 1

    The User Experience Team of One

    A Research and Design Survival Guide

    Leah Buley · 2013

    4.191,657 ratings · Goodreads

    Finding product-market fitCompany building

    About the book

    UX Team of Oneb Theory and Practice for Designers Responsible for Holo UX b This book presents ways to achieve greater impact than standardized UX work results with less time and resources do. Whether youre looking to turn to the UX field, or an experienced…

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  • 2

    Get Backed

    Craft Your Story, Build the Perfect Pitch Deck, and Launch the Venture of Your Dreams

    Evan Baehr · 2015

    4.36356 ratings · Goodreads

    Raising moneyCompany building

    About the book

    HOW DO YOU LAUNCH THE VENTURE OF YOUR DREAMS? Get Backed isn’t just about startup fundraising. It’s a handbook for anyone who has an idea and needs to build relationships to get it off the ground. Over the last 3 years, entrepreneurs Evan Loomis and…

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  • 3

    Selling the Invisible

    A Field Guide to Modern Marketing

    Harry Beckwith · 1997

    3.9410,059 ratings · Goodreads

    Marketing and growthFirst salesCompany building

    About the book

    You can't touch, hear, or see your company's most important products... So how do you sell, develop, make them grow? That's the problem with services. This "phenomenal" book, as one reviewer called it, answers that question with insights on how markets work…

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  • 4

    80/20 Sales and Marketing

    The Definitive Guide to Working Less and Making More

    Perry Marshall · 2013

    4.191,904 ratings · Goodreads

    First salesMarketing and growthCompany building

    About the book

    Stop "Just Getting By" ... Master The 80/20 Principle And Make More Money Without More Work. When you know how to walk into any situation and see the 80/20's, you can solve almost ANY marketing problem. 80/20 can demolish any sales and advertising problem.…

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  • 5

    UX Strategy

    How to Devise Innovative Digital Products that People Want

    Jaime Levy · 2014

    3.941,224 ratings · Goodreads

    Finding product-market fitCompany building

    About the book

    How do you bridge the large knowledge gap between user experience design and business strategy? This practical book introduces lightweight strategy tools and techniques that will help both your design team and your client come to a shared understanding of the…

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  • 6

    Risky is the New Safe

    The Rules Have Changed . . .

    Randy Gage · 2012

    3.86348 ratings · Goodreads

    Raising moneyCompany building

    About the book

    THE NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER and #1 WALL STREET JOURNAL BESTSELLER Risky Is the New Safe is a different kind of book for a different kind of thinking--a thought-provoking manifesto for risk takers. It will challenge you to think laterally, question…

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  • 7

    LinkedIn Riches

    How To Use LinkedIn For Business, Sales and Marketing! Updated and Revised

    John Nemo · 2014

    4.07319 ratings · Goodreads

    First salesMarketing and growthCompany building

    About the book

    SPECIAL Includes Free Access to 25+ LinkedIn Training Videos!Discover How To Use LinkedIn For Sales, Business and Marketing, including how Find New Sales Leads and Prospective Clients on LinkedIn FAST- Turn Your Existing LinkedIn Connections into Paying…

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  • 8

    Solving Product Design Exercises

    Questions & Answers

    Artiom Dashinsky · 2018

    4.30675 ratings · Goodreads

    Finding product-market fitCompany building

    About the book

    Practice your product design and UX skills. Prepare for your next job interview. "Redesign the NYC metrocard system. Design a dashboard for a general practitioner. Redesign an ATM". Learn how to solve and present exercises like these, that top startups…

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Leading and managing a team as the company grows.

  • 1

    Start with Why

    How Great Leaders Inspire Everyone to Take Action

    Simon Sinek · 2009

    4.09281,577 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    Why do you do what you do? Why are some people and organizations more innovative, more influential, and more profitable than others? Why do some command greater loyalty from customers and employees alike? Even among the successful, why are so few able to…

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  • 2

    The Outsiders

    Eight Unconventional CEOs and Their Radically Rational Blueprint for Success

    William N. Thorndike Jr. · 2012

    4.2214,412 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    ”It is impossible to produce superior performance unless you do something different.”, John TempletonWhat makes a successful CEO? Most people call to mind a familiar definition: a seasoned manager with deep industry expertise. Others might point to the…

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  • 3

    Rising Strong

    The Reckoning. The Rumble. The Revolution

    Brené Brown · 2015

    4.2590,292 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    Social scientist Brené Brown has ignited a global conversation on courage, vulnerability, shame, and worthiness. Her pioneering work uncovered a profound truth: Vulnerability, the willingness to show up and be seen with no guarantee of outcome, is the only path…

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  • 4

    La quietud es la clave

    Ryan Holiday · 2019

    4.2240,098 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    The most lucid minds in history have had something in common that has allowed them to control their emotions, avoid distractions, discover new ways of looking at the world and achieve all their goals. Zen Buddhist thinkers called it inner peace, an essential…

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  • 5

    Launching a Leadership Revolution

    Mastering the Five Levels of Influence

    Chris Brady · 2005

    4.372,964 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    Sooner or later, we are all called to lead in some capacity. Leadership skills are vital in corporate settings, small businesses, church or community organizations, and even within the home. Chris Brady and Orrin Woodward have recognized this need and have…

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  • 6

    Inspired

    How to Create Tech Products Customers Love

    Marty Cagan · 2008

    4.2226,350 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    Learn to design, build, and scale products consumers can't get enough of How do today's most successful tech companies–Amazon, Google, Facebook, Netflix, Tesla–design, develop, and deploy the products that have earned the love of literally billions of…

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  • 7

    How Google Works

    Eric Schmidt · 2014

    4.0529,775 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    Both Eric Schmidt and Jonathan Rosenberg came to Google as seasoned Silicon Valley business executives, but over the course of a decade they came to see the wisdom in Coach John Wooden's observation that 'it's what you learn after you know it all that…

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  • 8

    Joker One

    A Marine Platoon's Story of Courage, Leadership, and Brotherhood

    Donovan Campbell · 2009

    4.154,545 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    After graduating from Princeton, Donovan Campbell, motivated by his unwavering patriotism and commitment, decided to join the service, realizing that becoming a Marine officer would allow him to give back to his country, engage in the world, and learn to…

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Published in the last three years, newest first, for what you told us.

  • 1

    Intentional

    How to Finish What You Start

    Chris Bailey · 2026

    3.86368 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilienceCompany building

    About the book

    From author of Hyperfocus and productivity expert Chris Bailey, a new approach to finishing what you start.Most of us have no problem setting goals. We know what we want, and we have a pretty good sense of what it takes to get it. But consistently making…

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  • 2

    Slow Productivity

    The Lost Art of Accomplishment Without Burnout

    Cal Newport · 2024

    3.6627,060 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilienceCompany building

    About the book

    Do fewer things. Work at a natural pace. Obsess over quality. From the New York Times bestselling author of Digital Minimalism and Deep Work, a groundbreaking philosophy for pursuing meaningful accomplishment while avoiding overload. Our current…

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  • 3

    Lean Marketing

    More Leads. More Profit. Less Marketing.

    Allan Dib · 2024

    4.31452 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilienceMarketing and growthCompany building

    About the book

    Bigger Results with Less Marketing You keep being told to do more marketing―more complex, more aggressive, and more expensive marketing. Chasing the latest bright, shiny object is exhausting. Increased efforts keep leading to disappointment. The overwhelm…

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  • 4

    The First-Time Manager

    Sales

    Mike Weinberg · 2023

    4.43282 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilienceFirst salesCompany building

    About the book

    The First Time Manager Series has sold over 500,000 copies and is a go-to guide for new and aspiring sales managers on what to expect and how to succeed. The jump from sales superstar to sales manager has made or broken many a sales career. As a…

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  • 5

    Reset

    How to Change What's Not Working

    Dan Heath · 2025

    4.123,193 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilienceCompany building

    About the book

    From the #1 New York Times bestselling author of Made to Stick, Switch, and The Power of Moments comes a revolutionary guide to fixing what’s not working, in systems and processes, organizations and companies, and even in our daily lives, by identifying…

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  • 6

    Right Thing, Right Now

    Justice in an Unjust World

    Ryan Holiday · 2024

    4.136,450 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilience

    About the book

    In his New York Times bestselling book, Discipline Is Destiny, Ryan Holiday made the Stoic case for a life of self-discipline. In this much-anticipated third installment in the Stoic Virtues series, he argues for the necessity of doing what’s right – even…

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  • 7

    Buy Back Your Time

    Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire

    Dan Martell · 2023

    4.365,076 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilienceCompany building

    About the book

    Wall Street Journal Bestseller Learn to conquer the one real hurdle to scaling your company and growing Time How you use your free time will make or break your success. The secret? It’s not about working harder or finding more time to do work. It’s about…

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  • 8

    10x Is Easier Than 2x

    How World-Class Entrepreneurs Achieve More by Doing Less

    Dan Sullivan · 2023

    4.195,712 ratings · Goodreads

    Focus and resilienceCompany building

    About the book

    Expanding upon one of his high-level foundational Strategic Coach co-founder Dan Sullivan explains why achieving 10X growth is easier than going for 2X growth. Dan Sullivan, the world's leading coach for highly successful entrepreneurs, wants you to know…

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How companies like yours were actually built, from the people who built them.

  • 1

    Never Die Easy

    The Autobiography of Walter Payton

    Walter Payton · 2000

    4.231,581 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder stories

    About the book

    "Never die easy. Why run out of bounds and die easy? Make that linebacker pay. It carries into all facets of your life. It's okay to lose, to die, but don't die without trying, without giving it your best." His legacy is towering. Walter Payton, the man they…

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  • 2

    The Elon Musk Blog Series

    Wait But Why

    Tim Urban · 2016

    4.701,837 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder storiesCompany building

    About the book

    In 2015, Elon Musk reached out to blogger Tim Urban and asked him if he'd take a crack at explaining Elon's endeavors, and the industries surrounding them, to the world. Tim accepted, and after extensive meetings with Elon and his staff, he wrote four blog…

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  • 3

    Elon Musk

    Tesla, SpaceX, and the Quest for a Fantastic Future

    Ashlee Vance · 2015

    4.12456,221 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder storiesCompany building

    About the book

    Elon Musk, the entrepreneur and innovator behind SpaceX, Tesla, and SolarCity, sold one of his internet companies, PayPal, for $1.5 billion. Ashlee Vance captures the full spectacle and arc of the genius's life and work, from his tumultuous upbringing in…

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  • 4

    The Big Rich

    The Rise and Fall of the Greatest Texas Oil Fortunes

    Bryan Burrough · 2009

    4.093,394 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder storiesCompany building

    About the book

    In The Big Rich, bestselling author and Vanity Fair special correspondent Bryan Burrough chronicles the rise and fall of one of the great economic and political powerhouses of the twentieth century, Texas oil. By weaving together the epic sagas of the…

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  • 5

    The Situation Room

    The Inside Story of Presidents in Crisis

    George Stephanopoulos · 2024

    4.3211,278 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder stories

    About the book

    George Stephanopoulos, former senior advisor to President Clinton and for more than 20 years anchor of  This Week  and co-anchor of  Good Morning America , recounts the crises that decided the course of history, from the place 12 presidents made their…

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  • 6

    Sam Walton, Made in America

    My Story

    Sam Walton · 1992

    4.1628,881 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder storiesCompany building

    About the book

    As Sam Walton himself said, this is "...a story about entrepreneurship, and risk, and hard work, and knowing where you want to go and being willing to do what it takes to get there. And it's a story about believing in your idea even when maybe some other…

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  • 7

    Walt Disney

    An American Original

    Bob Thomas · 1960

    4.345,851 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder storiesCompany building

    About the book

    Walt Disney is an American hero--the creator of Mickey Mouse, and a man who changed the face of American culture. After years of research, with the full cooperation of the Disney family and access to private papers and letters, Bob Thomas produced the…

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  • 8

    Going Infinite

    The Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon

    Michael Lewis · 2023

    3.8437,422 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder storiesCompany building

    About the book

    From the #1 best-selling author of The Big Short and Flash Boys, the story of FTX’s spectacular collapse and the enigmatic founder at its center. When Michael Lewis first met him, Sam Bankman-Fried was the world’s youngest billionaire and crypto’s Gatsby.…

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What founders at seed keep coming back to, if you have not read them yet.

  • 1

    Crossing the Chasm

    Marketing and Selling High-Tech Products to Mainstream Customers

    Geoffrey A. Moore · 2002

    4.0332,109 ratings · Goodreads

    Marketing and growthCompany buildingFirst sales

    About the book

    Here is the bestselling guide that created a new game plan for marketing in high-tech industries. Crossing the Chasm has become the bible for bringing cutting-edge products to progressively larger markets. This edition provides new insights into the realities…

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  • 2

    To Sell is Human

    The Surprising Truth About Moving Others

    Daniel H. Pink · 2012

    3.8726,914 ratings · Goodreads

    Company buildingFirst sales

    About the book

    From the bestselling author of Drive and A Whole New Mind comes a surprising--and surprisingly useful--new book that explores the power of selling in our lives.According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, one in nine Americans works in sales. Every day…

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  • 3

    The 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing

    Violate Them at Your Own Risk

    Al Ries · 1993

    4.0522,738 ratings · Goodreads

    Marketing and growthCompany building

    About the book

    There are laws of nature, so why shouldn't there be laws of marketing? As Al Ries and Jack Trout, the world-renowned marketing consultants and bestselling authors of Positioning, note, you can build an impressive airplane, but it will never leave the ground if…

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  • 4

    Zero to One

    Notes on Startups, or How to Build the Future

    Peter Thiel · 2014

    4.14419,155 ratings · Goodreads

    Company building

    About the book

    If you want to build a better future, you must believe in secrets. The great secret of our time is that there are still uncharted frontiers to explore and new inventions to create. In Zero to One, legendary entrepreneur and investor Peter Thiel shows how…

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  • 5

    Nunca te pares

    Phil Knight · 2016

    4.46361,920 ratings · Goodreads

    Company building

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  • 6

    Red Notice

    A True Story of High Finance, Murder, and One Man's Fight for Justice

    Bill Browder · 2015

    4.44113,920 ratings · Goodreads

    Company building

    About the book

    A real-life political thriller about an American financier in the Wild East of Russia, the murder of his principled young tax attorney, and his dangerous mission to expose the Kremlin’s corruption.Bill Browder’s journey started on the South Side of Chicago…

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  • 7

    Pensar, Depressa e Devagar

    Daniel Kahneman · 2011

    4.17583,963 ratings · Goodreads

    Company building

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  • 8

    How to Win Friends and Influence People

    Dale Carnegie · 1936

    4.211,172,289 ratings · Goodreads

    Company building

    About the book

    "How to Win Friends and Influence People' is one of the first best-selling self-help books ever published. Just after publishing, it quickly exploded into an overnight success, eventually selling more than 15 million copies worldwide, and pioneering an entire…

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