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  • 1

    The Culture Code

    An Ingenious Way to Understand Why People Around the World Live and Buy as They Do

    Clotaire Rapaille · 2006

    3.943,903 ratings · Goodreads

    Hiring and cultureCompany buildingMarketing and growth

    About the book

    Why are people around the world so very different? What makes us live, buy, even love as we do? The answers are in the codes. In The Culture Code , internationally revered cultural anthropologist and marketing expert Clotaire Rapaille reveals for the first…

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  • 2

    The 17 Indisputable Laws of Teamwork

    Embrace Them and Empower Your Team

    John C. Maxwell · 2001

    4.154,553 ratings · Goodreads

    Hiring and cultureCompany building

    About the book

    Learn how to build and maintain champion level teams, then lead your team to the peak level of success regardless of the field you're in. Individual all-stars can only take you so far. Ultimately, success--whether in business, family, church, athletic teams,…

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  • 3

    No Rules Rules

    Netflix and the Culture of Reinvention

    Reed Hastings · 2020

    4.2634,623 ratings · Goodreads

    Hiring and cultureCompany building

    About the book

    Shortlisted for the 2020 Financial Times & McKinsey Business Book of the Year Netflix cofounder Reed Hastings reveals for the first time the unorthodox culture behind one of the world's most innovative, imaginative, and successful companies There has…

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  • 4

    45 Effective Ways for Hiring Smart!

    How to Predict Winners and Losers in the Incredibly Expensive People-Reading Game

    Pierre Mornell · 1998

    3.981,690 ratings · Goodreads

    Hiring and cultureCompany building

    About the book

    Now in Paperback!People are the most valuable asset in today'¬?s fiercely competitive workplace. In HIRING SMART, now available in paperback for the first time, Dr. Mornell delineates 45 simple strategies for "people reading"-observing a candidate'¬?s…

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  • 5

    The Sales Development Playbook

    Build Repeatable Pipeline and Accelerate Growth with Inside Sales

    Trish Bertuzzi · 2016

    4.18696 ratings · Goodreads

    Hiring and cultureFirst salesCompany building

    About the book

    Raise your hand if your company needs more new customers. I suspect your hand is (figuratively) up. This book is about not just growth, but high-growth, explosive-growth, the kind of growth that weather satellites can see from space. The success of any…

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  • 6

    HR from the Outside In

    Six Competencies for the Future of Human Resources

    Dave Ulrich · 2012

    3.94394 ratings · Goodreads

    Hiring and cultureCompany building

    About the book

    “This definitive work on HR competencies provides ideas and tools that help HR professionals develop their career and make their organization effective.” ―Edward E. Lawler III, Professor, University of Southern California “This book is a crucial blueprint of…

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  • 7

    What I Wish Every Candidate Knew

    15 Minutes to a Better Interview

    Russell Tuckerton · 2013

    4.24730 ratings · Goodreads

    Hiring and cultureCompany building

    About the book

    The condensed, concise experience of over 20 years of hiring job candidates for roles from entry level to Director. Intentionally kept as a short, readable book to enable job seekers to have an advantage during the interview process. Learn what a real…

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  • 8

    Knock 'em Dead Job Interview

    How to Turn Job Interviews Into Job Offers

    Martin Yate · 1994

    3.98326 ratings · Goodreads

    Hiring and culture

    About the book

    To amaze and impress job interviewers, you need the formulas for answering tough questions. With these handy flash cards, career wizard Martin Yate shows you how to display those essential transferable skills, behaviors, and values that "every" employer…

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The books most about hiring and culture.

  • 1

    TeamWork

    How to Build a High-Performance Team

    Natalie Dawson · 2021

    4.35215 ratings · Goodreads

    Hiring and culture

    About the book

    Great your team on the same page with TeamWork. Do you wish your employees felt more energized and engaged? Would you like them to be on the same page and fully aligned with your goals? Your business success depends on your ability to align and develop…

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  • 2

    The One Minute Manager Builds High Performing Teams

    Kenneth H. Blanchard · 1950

    3.86846 ratings · Goodreads

    Hiring and culture

    About the book

    Never before in the history of the workplace has the concept of teamwork been more important to the functioning of successful organizations. Ken Blanchard, bestselling coauthor of Raving Fans, The One Minute Manager , and Gung Ho! teams up with Donald Carew…

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  • 3

    Be a Recruiting Superstar

    The Fast Track to Network Marketing Millions

    Mary Christensen · 2008

    3.98281 ratings · Goodreads

    Hiring and culture

    About the book

    Network marketing has turned millions of people into successful business owners. But to truly reach their earning potential, network marketers need to successfully grow their businesses by recruiting the right people. Network marketing superstar and…

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  • 4

    Hiring for Attitude

    A Revolutionary Approach to Recruiting and Selecting People with Both Tremendous Skills and Superb Attitude

    Mark Murphy · 2011

    4.07607 ratings · Goodreads

    Hiring and culture

    About the book

    Praise for HIRING FOR ATTITUDE “Success in business starts with finding great talent that will thrive within your company culture. Hiring for Attitude combines valuable insights with relatable examples, giving you the tools to recruit the right talent for…

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  • 5

    Knock 'em Dead Resumes

    How to Write a Killer Resume That Gets You Job Interviews

    Martin Yate · 1996

    4.07258 ratings · Goodreads

    Hiring and culture

    About the book

    Expert advice on building a resume to get the job you want! Your resume is the most important financial document you'll ever create. When it works, so do you. Drawing on more than thirty years of experience, bestselling author Martin Yate shows you how to…

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  • 6

    Powerful

    Patty McCord · 2018

    17 Open Library reading lists

    Hiring and culture

    About the book

    "When it comes to recruiting, motivating, and creating great teams, Patty McCord says most companies have it all wrong. McCord helped create the unique and high-performing culture at Netflix, where she was chief talent officer. In her new book, Powerful:…

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What founders at seed need most: company building, finding product-market fit, raising money, first sales, marketing and growth.

  • 1

    The User Experience Team of One

    A Research and Design Survival Guide

    Leah Buley · 2013

    4.191,657 ratings · Goodreads

    Finding product-market fitCompany building

    About the book

    UX Team of Oneb Theory and Practice for Designers Responsible for Holo UX b This book presents ways to achieve greater impact than standardized UX work results with less time and resources do. Whether youre looking to turn to the UX field, or an experienced…

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  • 2

    Get Backed

    Craft Your Story, Build the Perfect Pitch Deck, and Launch the Venture of Your Dreams

    Evan Baehr · 2015

    4.36356 ratings · Goodreads

    Raising moneyCompany building

    About the book

    HOW DO YOU LAUNCH THE VENTURE OF YOUR DREAMS? Get Backed isn’t just about startup fundraising. It’s a handbook for anyone who has an idea and needs to build relationships to get it off the ground. Over the last 3 years, entrepreneurs Evan Loomis and…

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  • 3

    UX for Beginners

    A Crash Course in 100 Short Lessons

    Joel Marsh · 2016

    4.04527 ratings · Goodreads

    Finding product-market fitCompany building

    About the book

    Apps! Websites! Rubber Ducks! Naked Ninjas! This book has everything. If you want to get started in user experience design (UX), you've come to the right 100 self-contained lessons that cover the whole spectrum of fundamentals. Forget dry, technical…

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  • 4

    80/20 Sales and Marketing

    The Definitive Guide to Working Less and Making More

    Perry Marshall · 2013

    4.191,904 ratings · Goodreads

    First salesMarketing and growthCompany building

    About the book

    Stop "Just Getting By" ... Master The 80/20 Principle And Make More Money Without More Work. When you know how to walk into any situation and see the 80/20's, you can solve almost ANY marketing problem. 80/20 can demolish any sales and advertising problem.…

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  • 5

    Hey, Hun

    Sales, Sisterhood, Supremacy, and the Other Lies Behind Multilevel Marketing

    Emily Lynn Paulson · 2023

    3.5814,654 ratings · Goodreads

    Marketing and growthFirst salesCompany building

    About the book

    She signed up for the sisterhood, free cars, and the promise of a successful business of her own. Instead, she ended up with an addiction, broken friendships, and the rubble of a toppled pyramid . . . scheme. Hey, Hun: Sales, Sisterhood, Supremacy, and the…

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  • 6

    Observing the User Experience

    A Practitioner's Guide to User Research

    Mike Kuniavsky · 2003

    3.99695 ratings · Goodreads

    Finding product-market fit

    About the book

    The gap between who designers and developers imagine their users are, and who those users really are can be the biggest problem with product development. Observing the User Experience will help you bridge that gap to understand what your users want and need…

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  • 7

    Achieving Excellence in Fundraising + Website

    Eugene R. Tempel · 2003

    4.02249 ratings · Goodreads

    Raising moneyCompany building

    About the book

    The third edition of this acclaimed resource, Achieving Excellence in Fundraising, explains the fundraising profession's major principles, concepts, and techniques. With contributions from noted experts in the field, and filled with illustrative examples,…

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  • 8

    Venture Deals

    Be Smarter Than Your Lawyer and Venture Capitalist

    Brad Feld · 2011

    4.1117,486 ratings · Goodreads

    Raising moneyCompany building

    About the book

    Praise for Venture Deals"My biggest nightmare is taking advantage of an entrepreneur without even realizing it. It happens because VCs are experts in financings and most entrepreneurs are not. Brad and Jason are out to fix that problem with Venture Deals.…

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Leading and managing a team as the company grows.

  • 1

    Start with Why

    How Great Leaders Inspire Everyone to Take Action

    Simon Sinek · 2009

    4.09281,577 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    Why do you do what you do? Why are some people and organizations more innovative, more influential, and more profitable than others? Why do some command greater loyalty from customers and employees alike? Even among the successful, why are so few able to…

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  • 2

    The Ride of a Lifetime

    Lessons Learned from 15 Years as CEO of the Walt Disney Company

    Robert Iger · 2019

    4.4099,495 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    A grand vision defined: The CEO of The Walt Disney Company shares the ideas and values he has used to reinvent one of the most beloved companies in the world, and inspire the people who bring the magic to life. In 2005, Robert Iger became CEO of The Walt…

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  • 3

    The Goal

    A Process of Ongoing Improvement

    Eliyahu M. Goldratt · 2004

    4.0786,160 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    Written in a fast-paced thriller style, The Goal, a gripping novel, is transforming management thinking throughout the world. It is a book to recommend to your friends in industry - even to your bosses - but not to your competitors. Alex Rogo is a harried…

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  • 4

    The Wisdom of the Bullfrog

    Leadership Made Simple

    William H. McRaven · 2023

    4.408,634 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    From the acclaimed, bestselling author of  Make Your Bed, a short, inspirational book of advice and leadership lessons that Admiral McRaven collected over his four decades as a Navy SEAL. The title “Bullfrog” is given to the Navy SEAL who has served the…

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  • 5

    Give and Take

    A Revolutionary Approach to Success

    Adam M. Grant · 2013

    4.0641,070 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    Give and Take highlights what effective networking, collaboration, influence, negotiation, and leadership skills have in common. For generations, we have focused on the individual drivers of success: passion, hard work, talent, and luck. But today, success…

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  • 6

    Built to Last

    Successful Habits of Visionary Companies

    Jim Collins · 1994

    4.0687,169 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    "This is not a book about charismatic visionary leaders. It is not about visionary product concepts or visionary products or visionary market insights. Nor is it about just having a corporate vision. This is a book about something far more important,…

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  • 7

    EntreLeadership

    20 Years of Practical Business Wisdom from the Trenches

    Dave Ramsey · 2011

    4.1914,050 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    From the New York Times bestselling author of The Total Money Makeover and radio and podcast host Dave Ramsey comes an informative guide based on how he grew a successful, multimillion dollar company from a card table in his living room. Your company is only…

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  • 8

    Leadership

    Six Studies in World Strategy

    Henry Kissinger · 2022

    4.242,848 ratings · Goodreads

    Leading and managing

    About the book

    Henry Kissinger, consummate diplomat and statesman, examines the strategies of six great twentieth-century figures and brings to life a unifying theory of leadership and diplomacy"An extraordinary book, one that braids together two through lines in the long…

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  • 1

    Clock In

    No-BS Advice for Getting Ahead in Your Career

    Emily Durham · 2026

    4.19326 ratings · Goodreads

    Hiring and cultureCompany building

    About the book

    Career advice that actually works from a straight-shooter recruiterDid you know the average job search takes more than five months? That’s because today’s job market is more challenging, and more confusing, than ever. How are we supposed to get hired, get paid,…

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  • 2

    Simple Marketing For Smart People

    The One Question You Need to Win Customers without Gimmicks, Hype, or Hard Selling

    Billy Broas · 2024

    4.35305 ratings · Goodreads

    Marketing and growthFirst salesCompany building

    About the book

    Why do so many smart people struggle with marketing? The answer is smart people love complexity, and complexity brews problems. Does your marketing feel like it has way too many moving parts? If so, Simple Marketing for Smart People is the solution you’ve…

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  • 3

    The Pricing Roadmap

    How to Design B2B SaaS Pricing Models That Your Customers Will Love

    Ulrik Lehrskov-Schmidt · 2023

    4.43207 ratings · Goodreads

    Finding product-market fitCompany building

    About the book

    "The definitive resource on SaaS pricing, I absolutely can not recommend this book enough." Viktor Heide, COO of Contractbook.com, Forbes "30 under 30" A foolproof method to achieve skyrocketing sales, growth, and profits for your software as a service…

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  • 4

    Lean Marketing

    More Leads. More Profit. Less Marketing.

    Allan Dib · 2024

    4.31452 ratings · Goodreads

    Marketing and growthCompany building

    About the book

    Bigger Results with Less Marketing You keep being told to do more marketing―more complex, more aggressive, and more expensive marketing. Chasing the latest bright, shiny object is exhausting. Increased efforts keep leading to disappointment. The overwhelm…

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  • 5

    Careless People

    A Cautionary Tale of Power, Greed, and Lost Idealism

    Sarah Wynn-Williams · 2025

    4.12150,174 ratings · Goodreads

    Company building

    About the book

    Sarah Wynn-Williams joined Facebook believing the company could change things for the better. Instead, what she encountered over seven years was so shocking that Meta obtained a legal order to silence her. Now you can read her award-winning story. Candid…

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  • 6

    The Infinity Machine

    Demis Hassabis, DeepMind, and the Quest for Superintelligence

    Sebastian Mallaby · 2026

    4.423,320 ratings · Goodreads

    Company building

    About the book

    From one of our leading chroniclers of the intersection of innovation and capitalism, a landmark  reckoning, based on unprecedented access, with one of the world’s most brilliant and driven tech visionaries and his game-changing company.Even by the standard…

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  • 7

    Personal Branding for Introverts

    Goldie Chan · 2025

    4.41211 ratings · Goodreads

    Marketing and growthCompany building

    About the book

    A top expert in personal branding shows introverts how to leverage their unique strengths to get ahead    To build a career, you need a personal brand to showcase your distinct skills, experience, and expertise. Building that brand can feel…

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  • 8

    Brand It Like Serhant

    Stand Out From the Crowd, Build Your Following, and Earn More Money

    Ryan Serhant · 2024

    3.95275 ratings · Goodreads

    Marketing and growthCompany building

    About the book

    Bestselling author and real estate, television, and media icon Ryan Serhant shares his proven, three-step strategy to build your brand from scratch Brand is everything. Whether you’re a real estate broker, a hair stylist, or a freelance contractor, your end…

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How companies like yours were actually built, from the people who built them.

  • 1

    Shoe Dog

    A Memoir by the Creator of Nike

    Phil Knight · 2016

    4.45389,310 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder storiesCompany building

    About the book

    In this candid and riveting memoir, for the first time ever, Nike founder and CEO Phil Knight shares the inside story of the company’s early days as an intrepid start-up and its evolution into one of the world’s most iconic, game-changing, and profitable…

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  • 2

    American Kingpin

    Catching the Billion-Dollar Baron of the Dark Web

    Nick Bilton · 2017

    4.4155,362 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder stories

    About the book

    From New York Times-bestselling author Nick Bilton comes a true-life thriller about the rise and fall of Ross Ulbricht, aka the Dread Pirate Roberts, the founder of the online black market Silk Road. In 2011, Ulbricht, a 26-year-old libertarian idealist…

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  • 3

    Sam Walton, Made in America

    My Story

    Sam Walton · 1992

    4.1628,881 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder storiesCompany building

    About the book

    As Sam Walton himself said, this is "...a story about entrepreneurship, and risk, and hard work, and knowing where you want to go and being willing to do what it takes to get there. And it's a story about believing in your idea even when maybe some other…

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  • 4

    The Elon Musk Blog Series

    Wait But Why

    Tim Urban · 2016

    4.701,837 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder storiesCompany building

    About the book

    In 2015, Elon Musk reached out to blogger Tim Urban and asked him if he'd take a crack at explaining Elon's endeavors, and the industries surrounding them, to the world. Tim accepted, and after extensive meetings with Elon and his staff, he wrote four blog…

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  • 5

    The Big Rich

    The Rise and Fall of the Greatest Texas Oil Fortunes

    Bryan Burrough · 2009

    4.093,394 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder storiesCompany building

    About the book

    In The Big Rich, bestselling author and Vanity Fair special correspondent Bryan Burrough chronicles the rise and fall of one of the great economic and political powerhouses of the twentieth century, Texas oil. By weaving together the epic sagas of the…

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  • 6

    Elon Musk

    Tesla, SpaceX, and the Quest for a Fantastic Future

    Ashlee Vance · 2015

    4.12456,221 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder storiesCompany building

    About the book

    Elon Musk, the entrepreneur and innovator behind SpaceX, Tesla, and SolarCity, sold one of his internet companies, PayPal, for $1.5 billion. Ashlee Vance captures the full spectacle and arc of the genius's life and work, from his tumultuous upbringing in…

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  • 7

    Never Finished

    Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within

    David Goggins · 2022

    4.3850,509 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder stories

    About the book

    This is not a self-help book. It's a wake-up call! Can't Hurt Me, David Goggins' smash hit memoir, demonstrated how much untapped ability we all have but was merely an introduction to the power of the mind. In Never Finished, Goggins takes you inside his…

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  • 8

    Steve Jobs

    Walter Isaacson · 2011

    4.161,391,990 ratings · Goodreads

    Founder storiesCompany building

    About the book

    Walter Isaacson's worldwide bestselling biography of Apple cofounder Steve Jobs. Based on more than forty interviews with Steve Jobs conducted over two years--as well as interviews with more than 100 family members, friends, adversaries, competitors, and…

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What founders at seed keep coming back to, if you have not read them yet.

  • 1

    Crossing the Chasm

    Marketing and Selling High-Tech Products to Mainstream Customers

    Geoffrey A. Moore · 2002

    4.0332,109 ratings · Goodreads

    Marketing and growthCompany buildingFirst sales

    About the book

    Here is the bestselling guide that created a new game plan for marketing in high-tech industries. Crossing the Chasm has become the bible for bringing cutting-edge products to progressively larger markets. This edition provides new insights into the realities…

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  • 2

    The 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing

    Violate Them at Your Own Risk

    Al Ries · 1993

    4.0522,738 ratings · Goodreads

    Marketing and growthCompany building

    About the book

    There are laws of nature, so why shouldn't there be laws of marketing? As Al Ries and Jack Trout, the world-renowned marketing consultants and bestselling authors of Positioning, note, you can build an impressive airplane, but it will never leave the ground if…

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  • 3

    Inspired

    How to Create Tech Products Customers Love

    Marty Cagan · 2008

    4.2226,350 ratings · Goodreads

    Company buildingFinding product-market fit

    About the book

    Learn to design, build, and scale products consumers can't get enough of How do today's most successful tech companies–Amazon, Google, Facebook, Netflix, Tesla–design, develop, and deploy the products that have earned the love of literally billions of…

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  • 4

    The Long Tail

    Why the Future of Business is Selling Less of More

    Chris Anderson · 2006

    3.8330,263 ratings · Goodreads

    Company buildingFirst sales

    About the book

    The New York Times bestseller that introduced the business world to a future that s already here -- now in paperback with a new chapter about Long Tail Marketing and a new epilogue. Winner of the Gerald Loeb Award for Best Business Book of the Year. In…

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  • 5

    Outliers

    The Story of Success

    Malcolm Gladwell · 2008

    4.19890,252 ratings · Goodreads

    Company building

    About the book

    In this stunning book, Malcolm Gladwell takes us on an intellectual journey through the world of "outliers", the best and the brightest, the most famous and the most successful. He asks the question: what makes high-achievers different? His answer is that…

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  • 6

    Red Notice

    A True Story of High Finance, Murder, and One Man's Fight for Justice

    Bill Browder · 2015

    4.44113,920 ratings · Goodreads

    Company building

    About the book

    A real-life political thriller about an American financier in the Wild East of Russia, the murder of his principled young tax attorney, and his dangerous mission to expose the Kremlin’s corruption.Bill Browder’s journey started on the South Side of Chicago…

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  • 7

    To Sell is Human

    The Surprising Truth About Moving Others

    Daniel H. Pink · 2012

    3.8726,914 ratings · Goodreads

    Company buildingFirst sales

    About the book

    From the bestselling author of Drive and A Whole New Mind comes a surprising--and surprisingly useful--new book that explores the power of selling in our lives.According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, one in nine Americans works in sales. Every day…

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  • 8

    The First American

    The Life and Times of Benjamin Franklin

    H.W. Brands · 2000

    4.1123,067 ratings · Goodreads

    Marketing and growth

    About the book

    PULITZER PRIZE FINALIST • Benjamin Franklin, perhaps the pivotal figure in colonial and revolutionary America, comes vividly to life in this “thorough biography of ... America’s first Renaissance man” ( The Washington Post ) by the two-time Pulitzer Prize…

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